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Post by EMSOUP Wed May 01, 2013 12:54 pm

Requirement: 1 diabolic rats on the field + 1 beast-type/beast-warrior-type monster with 1000+ atk on the field

1. fuse the two monster into galewulf(from ANV2), bounce 2, ss rats by its effect
2. fuse galewulf with diabolic rats into galewulf, bounce 2, ss rats
3. repeat step 2 if galewulf's atk is still lower than 2000
4. fuse rats and galewulf with 2200 atk or more into ganwulf the howling brilliance
5. ganwulf's eff, summon nimble hamster. ss rats then synch for summoner synchron(use the effect on the first beast warrior fused with rats. add spearheaded beast to hand
6. fuse rats with ganwulf, ss spearheaded beast from hand/deck. synch beast and rats into alfred
7. alfred's eff to ganwulf, then synch for darkenebula

Field: Darkenebula/Rats/the other starting monster.
with recharge in hand:
8. Recharge, return 1 ganwulf and 3 galewulf, draw 1
9. repeat step 1-4
10. ganwulf ss hamster or a level 1 tuner(depending on if you want to summon darkenebula/goldenova), synch rat + hamster/level 1 tuner for striking/summoner synchron, use their effect(doesn't matter), add something to your hand.
11. repeat step 6-7 for darkenebula/goldenova

Field: Darkenebula + Darkenebula/Goldenova + rats( + 1 monster)
another recharge will increase the derp, but you wont summoning a field of darkenebula/goldenova/darkenebula anytime soon.


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Post by CNo.101 S.H.Death Knight Wed May 01, 2013 3:41 pm

Diabolic Rat diabolically abused my heart and soul of Ganwulf and Galewulf D:

field clearance + a 5400 ATK body rdy for eating that chunk of LP

but.... Laughing Alley Cat would SS 2 Rats and your opponent have to find ways to return it to the hand or negating the summon instead of killing them because they cannot die in the turn they are summoned.

as long that loop is quite vulnerable otherwise I swear Diabolic Rat just brought out the worst of them...
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Post by EMSOUP Wed May 01, 2013 4:25 pm

cat suicide = free rank 5, 6, and 7.(ganwulf+ganwulf[both atk is too low though for ganwulf's effect to activate], galewulf+galewulf, and chain artillery dragoon + chain artillery dragoon)
forbidding trespass, blizzard and that one trap that bounce and prevent activation is your best bet.

hell, 2 rats can do almost anything.
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Post by EMSOUP Wed May 01, 2013 4:53 pm

updated the OP with the steps for double darkenebula
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Post by Anime Girl References Thu May 02, 2013 7:26 am

How come Diabolic Rats never saw the light of OTK days until now?
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Post by CNo.101 S.H.Death Knight Thu May 02, 2013 9:40 am

Diabolic Rats wasn't delved into till yesterday, I happen to come across it and became skeptical when i was building Beast deck, then Soup happen to be able to theorize it within the discussion with him so the best course of action would be minimizing its ability to SS over and over in the same turn unless the loop is inconsistent as in very vulnerable it would be fine but still we want almost no OTKs in lccg
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Post by EMSOUP Thu May 02, 2013 1:52 pm

that was kinda an accident. first time seeing rat, and it happens to be a level 1 beast with 400 ATK, fulfilling the laughable summon condition of BOTH ganwulf and galewulf. a bit of tinkering with the idea, and voila.

honestly, even without gan and gale, rat still able to be an instant rank 6 with benefit. Design kinda abusable, and such. Heck, if there's a cannon soldier here, you can create an FTK easily with rat.

poor rats, always a problem in any TCG/real life.
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Post by DIGITAL Thu May 02, 2013 1:57 pm

and any RPG...
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Post by EMSOUP Thu May 02, 2013 2:00 pm

BTW, found something. since Frequency Peak hasn't been nerfed, you can completely clear your opponent's field with peak + this card. and tormented soul means that frequency peak will almost always live. someone make a deck around that combo, like now.
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Post by CNo.101 S.H.Death Knight Sat May 04, 2013 6:30 pm

if going Second and there opponent's monster (+ a set or so)

1: NS Laughing Alley Cat
2: ram it into the monster and take some damage, then SS 2 Diabolic rats
3: SS Galewulf using the rats, returns opponent's cards and Rats revives
4: Inflict 1600 damage, then SS another galewulf using both rats and first galewulf
5:Inflict 2400 damage, then SS another Galewulf using the 2nd and the rats
6: Inflict 3200 damage. 800 LP left for opponent assuming it was at 8000

7: If have Refueling in hand, play it recover 2 galewulfs and 1 cat
8: SS another galewulf using either 3rd galewulf + rat(s) or just the rats

or
7:FS Ganwulf using rat + galewulf and SS Beast tuner or beaststick from hand or deck
8:SS Level 3-5 Synchro monster and use their effect for whatever or SS another Ganwulf and SS a Beast from hand or Deck again

Field: 3600 Ganwulf, 2500 Ganwulf (using Grhino +rats), 1 or 2 Synchro monsters + a rat(s)

9: gg

OTk inconsistent but quite damaging enough for you to poke a bit in your next attack as well as the control over the field would be quite overwhleming enough for opponent to scoop or flip tables
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