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Post by Seattleite Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:46 pm

*Reading card effect*

" If this card is banished: You can add 1 EARTH Dragon-Type monster from your Deck to your hand."

Very Happy

*Still reading*

"You can only use 1 "Redox, Dragon Ruler of Boulders" effect per turn, and only once that turn."

D:<

CARD EFFECTS SHOULDN'T GIVE ME FALSE HOPE

ONCE PER TURN THINGS SHOULDN'T TAKE UP AN ENTIRE SENTENCE

THE MADNESS ENDS HERE:


"Once per turn, for all copies of this card:" <-- REPLACES --> "You can only activate this effect of 'Ugly text card' per turn"

"Once per turn, for all effects of this card:" <--REPLACES--> "You can only activate 1 effect of "Stupid Grammar" per turn"

"Once per turn, for all effects and copies of this card:" <--REPLACES--> "You can only activate 1 effect of "Hideous wall of text" per turn, and only once per turn"

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Post by EMSOUP Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:05 pm

that'd be a pain

sometimes.
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Post by CNo.101 S.H.Death Knight Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:18 pm

EMSOUP wrote:that'd be a pain

sometimes.
Yeup, rather stick with the ocg.
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Post by EMSOUP Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:24 pm

Imagine going to YCM and accidentally slipped.

It's like having a foreign accent.
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Post by Seattleite Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:54 am

You're not annoyed by the fact that a Condition (Once per turn) should go before the effect per OCG rules, and they just broke their own rule?

This is more OCG than the OCG.

EMSOUP wrote:Imagine going to YCM and accidentally slipped.

It's like having a foreign accent.
But it's YCM. *Scoff* *Mock* *Disdain*
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Post by Anime Girl References Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:48 am

I'm pretty sure everyone here would know the difference, but on YCM they don't even know what the fuck "sum of the remaining ATK" is. Plus, I don't think we need to use all of Konami's OCG, especially when some of it has been questionable, and takes up unnecessary amounts of card text (stops mini-text from appearing on YCM cards anyway)
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Post by DIGITAL Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:18 am

I agree with allowing people to change format of cards if they want, like how we added the term Mill. Good idea Sea. And if someone doesn't want to use it, they don't have to.
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Post by EMSOUP Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:22 am

How about we start adopting MTG-like keywords while we at it?
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Post by DIGITAL Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:22 am

We have been...
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Post by Anime Girl References Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:52 am

EMSOUP wrote:How about we start adopting MTG-like keywords while we at it?
Good idea, I'll write some up.
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Post by Anime Girl References Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:54 am

"Select & send 1 card from the field to the hand" => "Bounce 1 card."

"Select & return 1 card in the Graveyard to the deck" => "Recycle 1 card."


DUN DUN DUUUUUN
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Post by Aquamarius Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:04 am

Darkest Hour wrote:"Select & send 1 card from the field to the hand" => "Bounce 1 card."

"Select & return 1 card in the Graveyard to the deck" => "Recycle 1 card."


DUN DUN DUUUUUN
Except people also often use the word bouncing for returning to deck
And recycle is often also used for cards returning to hand
So yeah that'd be confusing
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Post by Anime Girl References Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:07 am

Aquamarius wrote:
Darkest Hour wrote:"Select & send 1 card from the field to the hand" => "Bounce 1 card."

"Select & return 1 card in the Graveyard to the deck" => "Recycle 1 card."


DUN DUN DUUUUUN
Except people also often use the word bouncing for returning to deck
And recycle is often also used for cards returning to hand
So yeah that'd be confusing
Yeah I do agree, perhaps mill was good enough.
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Post by DIGITAL Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:08 am

We'll use them when we see a need to, like with Mill. Currently I don't see any needs for keywords, just rephrases of OCG to shorten text.

I also think Soup was being sarcastic.
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Post by CNo.101 S.H.Death Knight Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:26 am

Aquamarius wrote:
Darkest Hour wrote:"Select & send 1 card from the field to the hand" => "Bounce 1 card."

"Select & return 1 card in the Graveyard to the deck" => "Recycle 1 card."


DUN DUN DUUUUUN
Except people also often use the word bouncing for returning to deck
And recycle is often also used for cards returning to hand
So yeah that'd be confusing
Bouncing a card to the deck is Spinning.
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Post by Aquamarius Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:31 am

Scheath666 wrote:
Aquamarius wrote:
Darkest Hour wrote:"Select & send 1 card from the field to the hand" => "Bounce 1 card."

"Select & return 1 card in the Graveyard to the deck" => "Recycle 1 card."


DUN DUN DUUUUUN
Except people also often use the word bouncing for returning to deck
And recycle is often also used for cards returning to hand
So yeah that'd be confusing
Bouncing a card to the deck is Spinning.
Pretty sure some people use bounce too

At any rate I don't think we need those terms

If we need to shorten anything, I'd say we need to shorten Gemini monsters like we did for some Unions

Gemini monsters take up much more text than strictly necessary
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Post by EMSOUP Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:20 am

Dyl is right, I was being sarcastic.

It'll be a pain to reword everything, and if we just use the keyword for newer cards, the duality of wording might prove to be quite a pain for rulings.
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Post by ALiCE'S EMOTiON Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:45 am

You could try to reword Gemini's except if you read there fine print some still have effects that are active when they are normal monsters
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Post by EMSOUP Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:59 am

Geminis could do fine with something like ''GEMINI:(insert effect here)'' since all geminis is quite similar.
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Post by Anime Girl References Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:45 pm

We did the same for spirits that were pretty by-the-book with their effects, and then allowed them full card text if it was altered in a manner.

So for the customized or non-generic Geminis they can retain the subtype text, while the others can use a shortened phrase or something.
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Post by Seattleite Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:51 am

The prophecy has been fulfilled

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Excavate

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Post by DIGITAL Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:48 pm

I don't understand the reasoning behind excavate?
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Post by CNo.101 S.H.Death Knight Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:22 pm

To only mean reveal from the deck and effects that do something to them while currently revealed but meh, it like they want to leave reveal for hand and field and leave that for deck only.
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Post by EMSOUP Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:54 am

All excavate are reveal, but not all reveal is excavate.

They should've put 'Drive Check X cards' instead.
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