Abaddon Unleashed

|Abaddon unleashed|???|????|Fiend/Effect|Fire|8||2800|2100|Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must first be Special Summoned by Tributing 2 Fusion, Synchro or Xyz monsters your opponent control. If you do, you cannot Summon or Set monsters this turn. This card cannot be destroyed by Fusion, Synchro or Xyz Monsters (either by battle or card effect). Also it is unaffected by their monster effects|

Maybe this would be better as an Extra Deck monster? It would need a nerf as such of course.

The problem is there's no uses for it in your hand when your opponent doesn't have 2 Fusion/Synchro/Xyz monsters, and even when they DO, you can't guarantee you'll have this card.

It's a good counter to cheap combos but might benefit the game as a whole better if it was easily accessible.

you're hating on Icevale so hard right now with this card.

SoulFire wrote:you're hating on Icevale so hard right now with this card.

 in what way this is in any relevance to icevale?it affect all extra Deck monsters even those were loved and hated. the only icevale i hate is the witch, the rest I like. 

 @Sea - if having 2nd extra Deck monster in play is rare then this would be better off as 1 tribute of the opposing extra Deck monster but having 2 of them isn't quite uncommon.

well, this is the easiest way to bypass Frost Breather lockdown in icevales, since the tribute is a cost, you can't even do jack shit against it.

Anyway, i like it, but last line's wording is a bit off, it looks like it can't be destroyed at all, eventhough you mean it only invulnerable to extra deck monsters.

EMSOUP wrote:well, this is the easiest way to bypass Frost Breather lockdown in  icevales, since the tribute is a cost, you can't even do jack shit against it.

Anyway, i like it, but last line's wording is a bit off, it looks like it can't be destroyed at all, eventhough you mean it only invulnerable to extra deck monsters.

 I'll assume that what Dylan is hating on because it seem it has to do something with that though it is the first i heard of it

I had reword the last part in 2 parts.

next card: 

|Underworld Prison Golem|????|????|Rock/Effect|Dark|10||0|4000|Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must first be Special Summoned to your opponent's Side of the field by Tributing 2 Fusion, Synchro or Xyz Monster your opponent controls. If you do, you cannot Normal Summon or Set monsters this turn. Cannot be used as a Fusion, Synchro, or Xyz Material for a Summon. While this card is face-up on the field, it cannot be Tributed. This face-up Attack Position card cannot be destroyed by battle. This card's controller cannot Special summon monsters from their Extra Deck. When this card is destroyed; take 2000 damage.|

.......what.

I wasnt hating... I was saying that the first card is a major counter to Icevale extra deck monsters.

EMSOUP wrote:.......what.

 that goes to eithermy 2nd sentence or Underworld prison Golem.

what the hell would you trying to accomplish with golem other than screwing yourself?

EMSOUP wrote:what the hell would you trying to accomplish with golem other than screwing yourself?

 It will barely do anything to me than screwing the opponent.

lava golem is less situational and doesn't give your opponent a nigh-invulnerable wall. also, the lockdown effect is not that great, since the summon is not negated, meaning there's a possibility of abuse there.

It seems UP'ed to me, to be honest

yeah, UP is what i mean here. Abaddon is already a +2 over this +0, and you still get a beater, while your opponent got none.

EMSOUP wrote:yeah, UP is what i mean here. Abaddon is already a +2 over this +0, and you still get a beater, while your opponent got none.

 well i had first idea of prevent access to the extra Deck then I thought it's Op'd given EPG can be searched but it may seem that it's not.