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Post by Tungsten Butterfly on Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:49 am

A couple of cards using the Resummon effect I was discussing before. What cards that have "When this card is Summoned" and other variants would be good to use with these effects?

Recurring Memento
SPELL
[Equip Spell]
Equip this card to an Effect Monster. During your Standby Phase, the equipped monster is Resummoned.

Victory Rush
SPELL
[Normal Spell]
Pay 800 Life Points. Resummon all face-up monsters on your side of the field.

Dramatic Dash
SPELL
[Normal Spell]
Resummon up to 2 monsters on your side of the field.

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Post by Seattleite on Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:29 pm

Question: Does this work with Gemini monsters?

Well, some good targets I can think of are Air Force Gale Jet, Interdimensional Skullblade, Byakko the White Tiger, Golem Striker, La Llorona, Firefly, Hermes,
Illustrium Dreamrazor Psion, D.D. Rallier, the 7 sin cards, Imp Army Soldier.

But i would probably use only some of the above cards, plus all of your cards, and make a cool deck.
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Post by Anime Girl References on Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:27 pm

Question: Does this work with Gemini monsters?

Think of it as repeating the original circumstances of it's summon that brought it to the field, without removing it from the field. If Zaborg was Tribute Summoned, and destroys 1 card on the field, and then Resummon is used on it, the resummon effect would cause the Tribute Summon conditions to apply again.

If a Gemini Monster was Normal Summoned, then Resummon would apply that Normal Summon again, so you could use Resummon effects to allow Geminis to gain their effects, but if the Gemini Monster was Special Summoned, then resummon would apply the Special Summon again, and not merit the Gemini gaining it's effect.

Basically Resummon is a far more shorter version of "This card is treated as being Summoned in the same manner that caused it to first enter the field, and automatically meets the summoning conditions required for the Summon to occur".

because writing all that in pen on tiny index cards was way too insane so Tungsten was like "Should we just call it a Resummon?" and we all agreed.
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Post by Seattleite on Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:39 am

Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

Yeah, I would like it as an unofficial OCG term Smile
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Post by Anime Girl References on Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:31 am

I think I might make a Wiki page for it if the next set comes along.

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Post by ALiCE'S EMOTiON on Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:17 pm

-sigh- Because it affects Gemini's though I'm going to half to say I don't agree with this idea because then a Gemini deck just became broken

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Post by Ash on Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:33 pm

>implying double summon makes geminis broke

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Post by ALiCE'S EMOTiON on Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:46 pm

Ash wrote:>implying double summon makes geminis broke
......yes I am when forget about it yes.........really tired bro and haven't been thinking straight all damn day. what makes the idea broken is the factor of cards that gain/lose counters when summoned effects that are powerful and only ment to be used once while face-up on the field. And Sasha giving you tremendous hand advantage potential to use the one you pay 800 lp resummon all your monsters use Sasha and draw about 10+ cards aka drawing for a fusion card then if you draw anymore of these cards by that draw you can once agin use Sasha to loop and draw out your deck. just sayin bro.

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Post by Seattleite on Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:27 pm

Werelord makes a good point. Geminis already have tons of draw power. Perhaps we could say resummoning only counts towards your standard Normal, Flip and Special Summoning (and for some odd reason, excludes Gemini Summoning)

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Post by CNo.101 S.H.Death Knight on Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:34 pm

to make this agreeable those cards would have to be made with exclusion of Gemini and Spirits monsters possibly in every cards that resummons because it will make them abusable as well pushing either card toward banlist in a blink of an eye.

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Post by Anime Girl References on Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:16 pm

I've read Sasha, and can see how reinitiating a Gemini Summon could
cause doubling of drawing. Generally though, Resummon existed in a place
where cards like this generally did not exist because...holy shit you
draw 2 cards by Normal summoning this thing and basically every other Gemini monster that is level 4 that you can special summon + normal summon even without resummon, so why the fuck don't I see more gemini decks.



what makes the idea broken is the factor of cards
that gain/lose counters when summoned effects that are powerful and only
ment to be used once while face-up on the field.

Which ones exactly?

to make this agreeable those cards would have to be made with exclusion
of Gemini and Spirits monsters possibly in every cards that resummons
because it will make them abusable as well pushing either card toward
banlist in a blink of an eye.

Which ones exactly?
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Post by CNo.101 S.H.Death Knight on Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:02 pm

Darkest Hour wrote:I've read Sasha, and can see how reinitiating a Gemini Summon could
cause doubling of drawing. Generally though, Resummon existed in a place
where cards like this generally did not exist because...holy shit you
draw 2 cards by Normal summoning this thing and basically every other Gemini monster that is level 4 that you can special summon + normal summon even without resummon, so why the fuck don't I see more gemini decks.

Well just because we make them doesn't always mean we use them :/

tbh we have plenty of cards to make Gemini monsters be Gemini Summoned. SO I think the Resummon should be specify toward those Summoned effect monsters like the example: The Monarch monsters and the like. so saying "Resummon a face-up non-Gemini Monster" in the effect of those spell card. Pretty much "non-Normal Monster" term fail since Gemini are "treated as" so they stacked up their subtype.

oh just off-topic: WTH just Neg Ash for saying it?!

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Post by Anime Girl References on Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:38 pm

tbh
we have plenty of cards to make Gemini monsters be Gemini Summoned. SO I
think the Resummon should be specify toward those Summoned effect
monsters like the example: The Monarch monsters and the like. so saying
"Resummon a face-up non-Gemini Monster" in the effect of those spell
card. Pretty much "non-Normal Monster" term fail since Gemini are
"treated as" so they stacked up their subtype.

It's hard to specify the Resummoning of certain card types to exclude Gemini monsters specifically, but I can see if cards that Resummon quite a lot and aren't one-time effects could cause major problems with Gemini monsters and Sasha being able to draw the entire deck. Most of the Resummon cards were made with cards like Spirits, Monarchs and other cards in mind that only were able to activate their "When this card is Summoned" effects once and were being outdone by cards who didn't need the situational summoning to work.

I guess it can be explained in the manner that it triggers summon conditions to allow ignition effects (or is it trigger/multi-trigger effects that the Monarchs have?) to be activated, without having to Gemini Summon gemini monsters?

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Post by Ash on Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:54 am

the problem with gemini's is the only thing that makes them even decent is special summoning cards like reinforce the wall or dreadfiend summoner so none would work with resummoning anyway.

also imma neg all you niggas until i find out who negged me k

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Post by Ash on Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:57 am

allllll the negs

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Post by Ash on Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:17 am

neg warrrr

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Post by Ash on Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:29 am

idg why you're hiding behind negs at least i'm open about it :I

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Post by ALiCE'S EMOTiON on Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:07 pm

Ash wrote:the problem with gemini's is the only thing that makes them even decent is special summoning cards like reinforce the wall or dreadfiend summoner so none would work with resummoning anyway.[/qoute] -sigh- still a rookie. The best summon combo for Gemini's already is All Hallow's Eve, Sasha, and Assassin's Technique-Quick Draw. In which case your limited by field space and thus cannot infinitly draw unless you really fucking lucky. In which case is a Normal Summon and thus these cards affect it. Granted the SS cards are uneffected by this card right off the bat yes, But by a Gemini Summoning the SS it's treated as being Normal Summoned and thus putting a giant hole in your logic here.


[qoute="Ash"]also imma neg all you niggas until i find out who negged me k
K so some random person neg's u and you go on a neg rep war? Why?

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Post by Ash on Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:18 pm

quick draw is slow and bad and is minus-ey and not good
resummon only applies to the original method of summoning, which will regularly be a special summon. normal summoning it again wouldn't change the original method of summoning.

i negged because someone negged me and i was bored.

SO IT WAS YOU

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Post by ALiCE'S EMOTiON on Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:21 pm

Ash wrote:SO IT WAS YOU
Neutral ???It wasn't???

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Post by Ash on Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:23 pm

fuck

THEN IT WAS SEA

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Post by ALiCE'S EMOTiON on Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:25 pm

???maybe???who knows???

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Post by Ash on Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:28 pm

I WILL FIND OUT

THEN I WILL HAVE MY VENGEANCE

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Post by CNo.101 S.H.Death Knight on Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:29 pm

well it's can't be help since this forum doesn't show who neg who for some reason, it would be easier tbh

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Post by ALiCE'S EMOTiON on Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:30 pm

Ash wrote:I WILL FIND OUT

THEN I WILL HAVE MY VENGEANCE
ok there Ghost Rider

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