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Post by CNo.101 S.H.Death Knight on Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:18 am

The Current list:

Forbidden:
Ampule
Dooms Day Golem
Phoenixian Flower
Transcending Curse of Forced Slumber

Limited:

Candy Reproduction
Dynamite Golem
Flash Phoenix
Flash Serpent
Gift from Diabolus
Golem Rebuild
Mezzo Galen
Monster of the Maelstrom
Reaper Possession
Red Moon Rabisu
Reign of Magic

Semi-Limited:

Antennae Inventor
Enchanting Circle
Heat Exposure
Interdimensional Skullblade
Mezzo Chiptune
Scrap Destruction
Zero Pegasus Flock
Space Clash Wave NEW!!!

No Longer Limited:

Chariot of Helios
Essence Ice Lady
Mind Storm
Twin Double Crossers

In Consideration:

discuss about reformatting the ban list and suggest anything to propose changes.


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Post by Anime Girl References on Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:31 am

I thought Moroi was being left alone if Rabisu was going to be limited.
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Post by CNo.101 S.H.Death Knight on Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:34 am

Darkest Hour wrote:I thought Moroi was being left alone if Rabisu was going to be limited.

really? somewhere along the time have been missed :/ but w/e

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Post by Ash on Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:05 am

Rogue to Unlimited - it's not the problem with Mezzo's.

Chiptune to 2, Galen to 1. Reduces the infamous consistency.

Tbh, I think Diabolus should be unbanned.
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Post by CNo.101 S.H.Death Knight on Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:11 am

Snowy wrote:Rogue to Unlimited - it's not the problem with Mezzo's.

Chiptune to 2, Galen to 1. Reduces the infamous consistency.

Tbh, I think Diabolus should be unbanned.

actually that what i was going for but wasn't sure if it's ok

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Post by Seattleite on Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:32 pm

Scheath666 wrote:
Darkest Hour wrote:I thought Moroi was being left alone if Rabisu was going to be limited.

really? somewhere along the time have been missed :/ but w/e

Yeah, I did say that to DH. At least that was the original plan.

And you already know my opinion about Diabolus, but i'll restate. I think there are better alternatives for Monster removal we can make other than one that's basically like a Ring of Destruction for lower levels.

I'm also going to post what was planned so far for Erratas, and see if this is what we want:

NERFS:

ID Treaty - Monsters only
Golem Striker - Lv3 or lower Non-Tuner

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OCG ERRATA:

Immense Polymerization - reworded for Xyz's and new OCG

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BUFFS:

Drawback - Negates effect, monster can't change Battle Position
Eccentric Electron - negates AND destroys
Doomblade - "Destroy 1 card you and your opponent controls"
Meteor Force Dragon - https://lccg.forumotion.com/t290-meteor-force-dragon-careful-snowy-you-ask-for-it#1754
Seidon the Ascension - https://lccg.forumotion.com/t264-dragarity-seidon-the-accession#1755
Synchro Exaltation and Primordial Form - no more Discard cost.
Bag O' Bones - Improved Stats, becomes a Tuner
Storm Warp - https://lccg.forumotion.com/t265-storm-warp
Necromorpher - Twice per turn.
Churel Wightwisp - https://lccg.forumotion.com/t256-churel-wightwisp
Altitude Eagle - 1400/1400, and tuner.
Sneaky Shapeshifter - Can attack the first turn.


I will go ahead and edit the .set file with these when ACRD starts, if that's all settled.
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Post by CNo.101 S.H.Death Knight on Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:08 pm

NERF:

Keeper of Arsenal: (snowy's last post wit the quote and cross) https://lccg.forumotion.com/t255-keeper-of-the-arsenal
Luminous Knight: (last post's latest change (snowy's)) https://lccg.forumotion.com/t280-luminous-knight#1772
Spiritual Dimension Conversion: (my first nerfed version in my opening thread) https://lccg.forumotion.com/t233-spiritual-dimension-conversion#1210
Eternal Spirit: (second version of the opening thread) https://lccg.forumotion.com/t281-eternal-spirit#1451
Ice Spirit, Shiva of the Frozen World (my last post on the thread.) https://lccg.forumotion.com/t336-ice-spirit-shiva-of-the-frozen-world
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BUFF:

Firefly (last post) https://lccg.forumotion.com/t320-firefly-no-not-the-series-the-normal-monster#1775
Dark Necromancer (Snowy's last post in that thread) https://lccg.forumotion.com/t299-dark-necromancer

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Post by CNo.101 S.H.Death Knight on Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:29 am

Bump for ban List change

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Post by Illgresi on Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:40 pm

Seems good, but you forgot Candy Reproduction as a Limited Card
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Post by ALiCE'S EMOTiON on Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:13 am

The following is just a list of cards thatI feel should be limited
Reinforce the Wall
Advanced Fusion Art
Flash Grenade
Inherited Rights
Natures Call
Rising Tide
Upgrade
War Experience
Decaying Earth
Hunter of the Blood Moon
Overseer of the Blood Moon

And Reaper Possession I feel should be Semi-Limited that is all for now

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Post by CNo.101 S.H.Death Knight on Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:12 am

Sif, The Great Wolf wrote:The following is just a list of cards thatI feel should be limited
Reinforce the Wall - summoning 1 warrior monster of any level... yeah it might need to be semi'd before it get a chance to be abused xD
Advanced Fusion Art - I agree with this since you send the monsters from your Deck so i find it quite powerful come to ARA in TCG :S
Flash Grenade - if this consider powerful would it be advised to semi-limit it?
Inherited Rights
Natures Call
Rising Tide -
Upgrade
War Experience
Decaying Earth - not all of them would be semi or limited unless the support of a type pose more threat, so confirm which type would be most likely to be. but generally i'd semi them or so
Hunter of the Blood Moon - this may be most likely to be semi'd or so.
Overseer of the Blood Moon - i can agree this to limit but other opinion would be said to semi it.

And Reaper Possession I feel should be Semi-Limited that is all for now - maybe

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Post by Ash on Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:59 am

Flash Grenade is not even close to needing to be put at 2/1. If this happens, I may as well limit every damn card that can stall.

I agree that AFA should be limited or maybe even banned.

Reinforce the Wall was planned to be errata'd.

I hardly think all of the Type 2-for-1 quickplays need limiting - if you can point out the ones that need attention and why I'd consider banlist action. For now, I feel that rarely used -2's need listing.

I'd consider Possession coming back to 2.

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Post by Anime Girl References on Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:44 am

Decaying Earth, not so much unless it's a gateway to an OTK or lockdown. Being an avenue to summon your big monsters in an emergency is efficient, and isn't costless.

It just matters on how many targets it has and how one-sided the game becomes if it activates.

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Post by Leo on Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:21 pm

ok bumping the thread

Zero Pegasus Flock should really come down too 3.
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Post by Ash on Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:59 pm

No. You do realize that 3 Pegasus Flock means OTK right?

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Post by Leo on Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:42 pm

Oh yeah, forgot about that.

Also, apparently putting Junk Salvage @ 1/2 is something that has been discussed because of OTKing possibilities with some decks. What are your thoughts?

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Post by Seattleite on Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:34 am

Leo wrote:Oh yeah, forgot about that.

Also, apparently putting Junk Salvage @ 1/2 is something that has been discussed because of OTKing possibilities with some decks. What are your thoughts?

It deserves it, it should be harder to draw into.

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Post by Ash on Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:39 am

@1 because 1000 lp for a ballsy +2 is nuts.

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