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Post by Ash on Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:42 am

yes, i'm here to fix your collective messes again with an emergency ban-list

Ban
-Arachne
-Heavy Armored Stagbeetle
-Insect Reproduction
-Snap-dragon-fly
-Dark Chaser

Limit
-Megalosquito
-Lava-Winged Icarus

are on my hitlist so far
anything else?

(i really want to ban resource collector on principle because its just fucking stupid)
(also i want to ban lifeforce shield too kinda but idk its just hands down the best protection card in our game its like solemn judgment in how it protects you but less costly and usually a +1)

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Post by Ash on Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:53 am

oh and shooting star bird. stupid sacky card

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Post by EMSOUP on Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:15 am

Hit SSB, Ban Lifeforce, Ban All Hallow, Trespass to 2, ID Skullblade back to 2/1.
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Post by Anime Girl References on Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:25 am

Lifeforce shield to zero. now with hoplon and other protection its not our only mon protection.



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Post by Ash on Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:35 am

how did i forget all hallow we literally talked about it just yesterday

1 skull could be ok right

trespass maybe i'm not sold on it

what about effect disorientation? atm its a 3-of in practically all my decks, card is very good

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Post by EMSOUP on Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:38 am

go to 2 or 1, other effect negations needs love too.
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Post by CNo.101 S.H.Death Knight on Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:55 am

I agree it should be hit despite the hole in its potential

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Post by Anime Girl References on Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:27 am

Ef dis. to 1. Three is too much for now.

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Post by EMSOUP on Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:48 am

Anything else that needs to go tumbling down?
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Post by Anime Girl References on Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:38 am

+1 banfor Resource Collector

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Post by EMSOUP on Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:45 am

^this
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Post by Ash on Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:07 am

Ban
-Arachne
-Heavy Armored Stagbeetle
-Insect Reproduction
-Snap-dragon-fly
-Dark Chaser
-Resource Collector
-Lifeforce Shield
-Shooting Star Bird
-All Hallow's Eve

Limit
-Megalosquito
-Lava-Winged Icarus
-Effect Disorientation
-Interdimensional Skullblade

Semi-Limit
-Forbidden Trespass

Are what I've got thus far. This seem good?

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Post by Seattleite on Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:10 am

Can we get a short explanation for each card on why it is banned? For the wiki (and for posterity)

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Post by Ash on Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:20 am

that depends

can i just use the excuse of "fuck emsoup" for most of them

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Post by Seattleite on Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:56 am

Ash wrote:that depends

can i just use the excuse of "fuck emsoup" for most of them
For the ones that he made xD

Actually we just need the banned ones.

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Post by Aquamarius on Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:20 am

Ban
-Arachne

It toolboxes an entire type, SS’s them for good measure, and also has a bonus effect just for kicks.

-Heavy Armored Stagbeetle

Excessive swarming: results in lots of OTKs

-Insect Reproduction

Easy +2, lots of really powerful combos

-Snap-dragon-fly

wow very milling such sacky

-Dark Chaser

Tends to result in incredibly overpowered combos that result from drawing it alone. For example, Unholies, or milling 2 Red Moon Rabisu/Fleshless Heretic for easy swarming.

-Resource Collector

Turns into drawbackless spammable pot of greed as soon as you make any deck that can use it consistently. This card is not balanced. Either it won’t be used, or it will be abused.

-Lifeforce Shield

A super easy +1, and your opponent is bad at ygos for using any destruction spell ever.

-Shooting Star Bird

Sacky as balls, and fusion material reduction is a concept that really just breaks things. For example, fusion substitutes let you make any 2-material fusion you want, and contact fusions that are treated as fusion summons become really breakable as well.

-All Hallow's Eve

Very abusable: the most obvious thing is Hermes, but pretty much all monsters with summoning as a condition for their effects can be broken with this.
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Post by EMSOUP on Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:58 am

Ash wrote:that depends

can i just use the excuse of "fuck emsoup" for most of them
Ash, do you really want to fuck me?

....kay, that's enough.

The reasoning sounds fine, though I'd say the reason why dragonfly was hit is because of both the ridiculously easy generic milling effect, and it's a tuner in insects that can pretty much be special summoned as easily as Kizan.

Also, All Hallow should have mentioned multiple NS effects as one of the reason it becomes broken.

And alas, only 4 of my cards are forbidden as of now.
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Post by Seattleite on Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:06 am

thankies aqua

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Post by Anime Girl References on Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:54 am

Since X-ACCESS isn't getting changed should it just be banned?

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Post by Ash on Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:40 am

it is getting changed

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Post by Ash on Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:54 am

do i limit paranormal mage or clandestine paranormal blood bender?

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Post by EMSOUP on Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:52 pm

Blood Bender
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Post by Ash on Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:59 pm

why blood bender and not mage?

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Post by EMSOUP on Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:42 am

WHy the hell Deepsea Athlantal got released from the banlist?
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Post by Anime Girl References on Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:12 pm

it was on the list?

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